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Macro
07-28-2009, 09:21 PM
Finally took the leap and invested in a new desktop computer.

Bare with me. The question I have has to do with my available power. Just a little background on where I'm at right now with this.
The house I call home now was built in 1958. I believe the code changed in 1962 requiring the outlets to be grounded. This house, other than a room addition and kitchen and bathroom, was never upgraded. All outlets in the bedrooms are as they were when installed, 2 prong, non-grounded outlets. I tested the metal boxes, confirmed: not grounded.

Surge Protectors are useless unless grounded. Being basically bedridden because of my back for the last 2 years leaves me unable to do the climbing/crawling through the crawl space below the house or up in the attic to do what I have done many times in my youth to run required wiring. So simplest solution no longer a possibility.

It has been suggested by the Grand Poopah of Electrical Mysteries at Home Depot that an UPS (Uninterrupted Power Supply) would instantly recognize any spike/variation, either up or down, and take over, protecting my new computer and components by maintaining consistent, unvarying power.
“Raymond” at Fry’s, agree, but his help was limited to mumbling that I should get one that’s “1500VA”. The only input he got from me for him to base this expert opinion on was me saying, “I have a computer and do not have access to grounded outlets” to which he replied, “Gotta go to aisle 2A, get one with 1500VA, get one with 1500VA. Uh-oh…three minutes til Wapner!” and he shuffled off to the Television Department.

Finally! the cry for help. As I see it, I have two options:

In a perfect world, call in an electrician to ground the outlets needed and bring this all up to code. Not being my house and unable to work for so long, I am not able to toss the possibly large amount of coin required by this solution.
Is a UPS a even realistic solution? Do they provide the protection I'm after and perform as I've been told and described above? Or is it not a practical solution at all. (I'm gonna try and limit this additional expense to under 2 Benjies.


Thanks for any input/suggestions.

dirfter
07-29-2009, 01:28 PM
I'm no volt pimp but I have these and they have been nothing but tits.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101140

Macro
07-29-2009, 05:16 PM
I'm no volt pimp but I have these and they have been nothing but tits.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101140

Yeah Bry-Bry! APC is the brand of choice. My son-in-law runs a crew of ITs at SAIC and says that's all they use. He's actually the one helping me put my new magic thinking box together right now. Bad motherboard right out of the box so I had to ship it back for a replacement. They actually shipped a new one out quick-quick and we threw the old one in the same box, pre-paid by them and, wham-bam-done! Smooth, no questions asked return policy which is very cool. (as it should be)
But back to the issue of surge protection, they are useless inless grounded. Of the 7 outlets on that model you linked to, 4 are protected with the battery backup and 3 are "providing surge only protection for less critical equipment" so, try as I may to get past this cheaply, it's not looking good.
I'm really bummed about this unforeseen additional expense but I am resigning myself to the fact that I won't feel confident in anything less than getting those fucking outlets grounded.
Damn "right way to do things" way of thinking!! Gets me every time...
thanks Doodapotimus!

can't wait to see Beej's huge slobs up on my new 24 incher :nocondoms:

Anybody know an electrician in the Clairemont/Mission Bay area that you would recommend?

dirfter
07-29-2009, 08:15 PM
Yeah Bry-Bry! APC is the brand of choice. My son-in-law runs a crew of ITs at SAIC and says that's all they use. He's actually the one helping me put my new magic thinking box together right now. Bad motherboard right out of the box so I had to ship it back for a replacement. They actually shipped a new one out quick-quick and we threw the old one in the same box, pre-paid by them and, wham-bam-done! Smooth, no questions asked return policy which is very cool. (as it should be)
But back to the issue of surge protection, they are useless inless grounded. Of the 7 outlets on that model you linked to, 4 are protected with the battery backup and 3 are "providing surge only protection for less critical equipment" so, try as I may to get past this cheaply, it's not looking good.
I'm really bummed about this unforeseen additional expense but I am resigning myself to the fact that I won't feel confident in anything less than getting those fucking outlets grounded.
Damn "right way to do things" way of thinking!! Gets me every time...
thanks Doodapotimus!

can't wait to see Beej's huge slobs up on my new 24 incher :nocondoms:

Anybody know an electrician in the Clairemont/Mission Bay area that you would recommend?

U got me digits Holmey, call any time for more help. Also, consider donning a pink Speedo and doing yoga down at south Black's on Friday morning. The CEO of Qualcomm has a 9000 sq ft place up the hill and might invite you to live in one of several quarters. His wiring is new. :sun-smile:

Quad core in the MF house beatch!

http://www.wired.com/images/article/full/2007/09/barcelona_quad_core_500px.jpg

http://talkinstuff.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/the_facts_of_life.jpg

Macro
07-29-2009, 08:36 PM
how'd you know dat???

Here's the list of inerds:

Intel D975XBX2 ATX Motherboard
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66GHZ 8M Processor
4GB DDR2 PC6400 800MHz Dual Channel
500GB 7200RPM 3G SATA II Hard Drive
GeForce 9800GT 1GB PCI-Express


Outards:

Solidtek Mini portable Bluetooth Wireless Keyboard
Wacom MTE450 Bamboo Pen Tablet
Samsung 2433BW 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor 1920x1200 WUXGA, 20000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio, 5ms, DVI
Ergotron 45-179-194 LX Desk Monitor Arm


The Monitor Arm is VERY SWEET!! strong like bull. Handles that 24" monitor no problem!

dirfter
07-30-2009, 10:07 AM
Nice system dude. Now just make damn sure you are backing up!

Macro
07-30-2009, 02:33 PM
Nice system dude. Now just make damn sure you are backing up!

Always with the sexual in-your-endos!

yeah, looking forward to actually using it.

jayembee
07-31-2009, 04:48 PM
Have the same problem with an older house. Most of the electrical has been upgraded (second floor and 1/2 the first floor) but with the remaining portion I added a green wire to a new 3 prong outlet and attached the wire to the metal box. I then checked the outlet with an electrical tester and it came back grounded. The ground in the older houses is in the metal boxes and metal corrugated cables. This worked for me anyways.
Marty B.

Macro
07-31-2009, 10:37 PM
Have the same problem with an older house. Most of the electrical has been upgraded (second floor and 1/2 the first floor) but with the remaining portion I added a green wire to a new 3 prong outlet and attached the wire to the metal box. I then checked the outlet with an electrical tester and it came back grounded. The ground in the older houses is in the metal boxes and metal corrugated cables. This worked for me anyways.
Marty B.

Yeah Marty, that is what I thought I'd do when I started this. Simple, but no cigar. Box is metal, but not grounded (no conduit?). Sucks not being able to physically check this out and do it when I used to do this stuff in my sleep. Just pulling the cover plate off the outlet and testing it knocked my dick in the dirt. Chewing vicodin like Tic-Tacs.
Tommy hooked me up with an electrician. If I can't get it resolved some other way this weekend, I gotta bring in the Pros from Dover.
Thanks anyhoo.
Mac

jayembee
08-01-2009, 02:21 PM
If I can't get it resolved some other way this weekend, I gotta bring in the Pros from Dover.
Thanks anyhoo.
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Cute! Wonder how many got that. I was always curious about the epileptic whore.

Macro
08-01-2009, 02:50 PM
Cute! Wonder how many got that. I was always curious about the epileptic whore.

Hey!! LOL!! me too! may have thought about it too much. hence my experimental days: me sittig on the paint mixer, she holding on to the ceiling fan.

And you wonder why I have back problems....

It was worth it.